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All about my adventures at [livejournal.com profile] writercon:

My flight got in late Thursday, and [livejournal.com profile] amaresu picked me up to head to the hotel. It's funny how you can be away from someone for two years, but pick up your geeky conversations right where you left them.

After dropping my things off in the room and greeting [livejournal.com profile] alizarin_nyc (another roomie), I headed to the con suite. Most people, except for the die-hards and us West Coasters, were already in bed. Still got to say hello to [livejournal.com profile] itsabigrock, [livejournal.com profile] denyce, [livejournal.com profile] mireille719, [livejournal.com profile] soft_princess, [livejournal.com profile] shaddyr (our lovely con suite hostess of awesome), [livejournal.com profile] mosca, [livejournal.com profile] confusedkayt, [livejournal.com profile] essene, [livejournal.com profile] inkandchocolate, [livejournal.com profile] nikitangel, [livejournal.com profile] escritoireazul among others.

Got up early the next morning as I was on the panel Discuss! A multi-fandom roundtable with [livejournal.com profile] itsabigrock, [livejournal.com profile] redeem147, [livejournal.com profile] essene, [livejournal.com profile] hermionesviolin, and [livejournal.com profile] neodods (who joined us a little late due to planes). We talked a lot about the cross-sections of fandom and how many of the stories our shows tell have very similar character archetypes. Also got my first taste of the cons variety of fanfic writers: lots of representation from SPN, new DW, SG, and still a strong love for Buffy. Though if you watch it, read it, love it, ship it, etc., you'd find someone else with the same passion. The panel had it's ups-and-downs, but overall went well. (Even with an appearance of Sea-Hulk, that'd be [livejournal.com profile] soundingsea's alter ego.)

Ate some food at the con suite and had a good time with [livejournal.com profile] amaresu, [livejournal.com profile] clawofcat, and [livejournal.com profile] only_passenger. Got to geek out about fanfic, Buffy, femslash, and comic books. I also finally met up with [livejournal.com profile] callmesandy, who I wished I would've got to spend more time with.

Went to the gender panel, which was really great and starred [livejournal.com profile] mosca, Kristina Busse, [livejournal.com profile] enigmatic_blue, and [livejournal.com profile] denny_dc. Lots of talk about stereotypes, tropes, fandom, heteronormative shipping, and gender-swap. Always good to question what you're writing and why you're writing it. Some very great insights about gender-swap and how it can be used as venting about womanhood, but often turns into very sexist and heteronormative stories. Overall, I thought the room was filled with people who I'm glad to be part of their community. (Of course, it was pointed out that really sexist people would probably not attend this panel.)

Next went to the Gen Fic panel: Enough Kissing: Get on with the Maiming. I felt that the conversation really got overwhelmed with the question of how to put non-canon ships, especially slash ones, in your Gen Fic without making your reader call it ship fic. While a valid questioned, I opted to sneak out early as it wasn't what I was looking for.


My gen story as I wrote for [livejournal.com profile] amaresu about Vala, Teal'c, and Donna being space pirates.

Wandered around the skyways of Minneapolis looking for dinner. Applebees in the Midwest fails at vegetarian food. [livejournal.com profile] amaresu and I ended up at a sandwich shop. Then we met up with our fourth and final roomie [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa.

Because I didn't need a nap or that long to pretty myself, I chatted in the consuite with [livejournal.com profile] shaddyr, [livejournal.com profile] harmonyfb, [livejournal.com profile] rahirah, and [livejournal.com profile] lilachigh among others.

Got ready and had champagne with my roomies pre-cocktail party. Nothing like going to the party already a little buzzed. (Yes, I'm the lightest light-weight ever.)


[livejournal.com profile] amaresu, myself, and [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa


[livejournal.com profile] amaresu, [livejournal.com profile] alizarin_nyc, and myself

Got to say hi to [livejournal.com profile] wesleysgirl, [livejournal.com profile] sweptawaybayou, [livejournal.com profile] tabaqui, [livejournal.com profile] pukajen, [livejournal.com profile] escritoireazul, and [livejournal.com profile] nikitangel, [livejournal.com profile] sunnyd_lite plus others already mentioned. Danced my ass off (thanks to [livejournal.com profile] ironchefjoe's DJing), got another drink, and did more socializing.

Then changed into my pjs and headed to the Firefly watching and drinking game. Really too many 'whore' mentions. Lots of fun to watch the Big Damn Show with those who will sing the theme song and Jayne's song. Don't worry as I'd switched to tea and water by then. ;) Stayed to chat with [livejournal.com profile] itsabigrock, [livejournal.com profile] essene, [livejournal.com profile] escritoireazul, [livejournal.com profile] blacknblue2, [livejournal.com profile] nikitangel, [livejournal.com profile] alixtii, [livejournal.com profile] chrisjournal, [livejournal.com profile] mintwitch, and more.

Missed [livejournal.com profile] justhuman's morning panel, but got a report from her that it went well. Went to the farmer's market with [livejournal.com profile] alizarin_nyc, sarah, and [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa. Bought some raspberries and tasted some cheese that made [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa and myself long to magically transport back with us. Talked about SGA, bdsm, John/Teyla, and if we were going to watch SGU with [livejournal.com profile] panisdead; the answer to the last question was largely, we don't know. Then we all had lunch and I tried watermelon soup for the first time. It was good, but perhaps a little too much.

Went to the fan-led queer panel, facilitated by [livejournal.com profile] executrix, which I thought went pretty well all things considered. (Though still a per peeve of mine when slash = only boyslash. More femslash dammit!) Also thought there really needed to be a bdsm panel given some of the questions and comments which came up during the panel. (Comcon: [livejournal.com profile] nikitangel, [livejournal.com profile] escritoireazul, and I volunteer ourselves.)

There was an interesting discussion on how we gain our ratings and language from the film industry (both porn and not). Which is problematic considering Prince Charming waking Sleeping Beauty with a kiss gets a G-rating and Rodney waking John (who is so the Princess) with a kiss gets at least PG-13 due to homophobic film ratings.

On a sadder note, I do think that a lot of the vocal slash writer who were straight do not want to talk about queer culture and how it should impact slash. (I think this is a mix of homophobia (the cliche of the straight slash writer who write two guys fucking, but votes against gay marriage) and fandom-at-large's constant resistant to research as it's 'just fanfic' or 'just wank material.' Just wank material that happens to be some people's real lives.) Overall, I wish I'd been more vocal on both the queer culture issues and bdsm.

Went to dinner with [livejournal.com profile] escritoireazul and [livejournal.com profile] nikitangel. We ended up at the crepe cart at SummerFest. (It was really nice to see some of the city, unlike last time in Atlanta.) It was really great chatting with them and catching up, especially since [livejournal.com profile] escritoireazul spent last summer in Seattle and we never managed to connect. We also got to give [livejournal.com profile] nikitangel a very hard time with her elimination of a continent in her food choices.

Then went to the DW/Torchwood wake at the bar. Chatted and stole fries with [livejournal.com profile] lyrstzha, [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa, and [livejournal.com profile] alizarin_nyc.


[livejournal.com profile] alizarin_nyc and myself


Me and my crazy fangirl stalker ;)

Next was the Language of Love: How Sex Scene Descriptions Color the Overall Story with [livejournal.com profile] rm, [livejournal.com profile] versaphile, [livejournal.com profile] invisible_lift, and [livejournal.com profile] ladycat777. Pretty good chat about language. A lot of talk about how cock slips out so easily (no pun intended), but pussy and cunt are stumbled over. Also how the key to writing sex is more than tab a goes into slot b. Though one thing I'm pretty constantly confounded with is when writers talk about getting so hot and bothered by their own fic while writing. Personally, I find writing sex to be very hard and thus, not sexy at the time of writing. (Re-reads of completed fic are different thing.) I think there needs to be poll. (I often wonder if the crowd reaction isn't like saying 'sex' and getting generic cheers.)

Then I slipped out to change into my dress for blue drinks and dancing ladies with a large group. The Seville is not burlesque as their website claims, but it's a little more classy and with less fake tits for a strip club. Got to watch several lap dances and got to know [livejournal.com profile] hermionesviolin a lot better.

Went back to the consuite. Chatted and drank with [livejournal.com profile] itsabigrock, [livejournal.com profile] alixtii, [livejournal.com profile] inkandchocolate, [livejournal.com profile] knotted_rose, [livejournal.com profile] hermionesviolin, [livejournal.com profile] nikitangel, [livejournal.com profile] escritoireazul, and [livejournal.com profile] denyce among others. Sadly, I didn't get any fangirl kissage due to stupid dental problems. Did however get to help plan some corruption for [livejournal.com profile] blacknblue2, since she's not that far away and is crazily from my hometown.


Rodney and John pose for some wing-fic.

Had a hell of a time sleeping that night. I don't think the Los Angeles' Angels helped calm my mood by shouting things at me (which I ignored) as I scurried to my room. (Pop quiz: What's dangerous? Being a petite woman alone in a hallway full of an entire drunk baseball team.)

I ended up sleeping through [livejournal.com profile] gwynnega's panel the next morning, which I was really looking forward to. :( Got checked out, bags shuffled, and breakfast before going to the raffle. Won a very big hardback writer's thesaurus and watched Marsterbator CDs get passed around. Also finally ran into [livejournal.com profile] dancetomato.

[livejournal.com profile] soundingsea (and [livejournal.com profile] amaresu) gave [livejournal.com profile] astridv, [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa, [livejournal.com profile] pukajen, [livejournal.com profile] melange, and another woman who's name I'm blanking on a tour of Minneapolis via the skyways. We went to Moose & Sadie's, which I'm sure is fab, but my stomach was too upset for anything but mint tea. However, I got to know [livejournal.com profile] pukajen a better, and I can vouch for her awesomeness.

Went to the sexism, racism, and homophobia in fandom panel with [livejournal.com profile] revdorothyl, [livejournal.com profile] kalichan, [livejournal.com profile] invisible_lift, [livejournal.com profile] xionin, and [livejournal.com profile] rahirah. Definitely too many huge topics for a small time frame and as [livejournal.com profile] kalichan pointed out she was sad we still needed this type of panel. Though she and her fellow panelists did a great job.

The discussion about Bollywood was particularly interesting in how far is too far in fangirling when it becomes cultural appropriation. Wise words of that it crosses the line when it stops being fangirling about a movie/actors and about fangirling a culture. Talked about fetishes and how 'black' or 'Latina' is a type of porn film and Hollywood 'beauty standards.' [livejournal.com profile] rahirah made the best comment about where's the dumpy middle-age lesbian porn.

There was unfortunately a derailment, which [livejournal.com profile] deepad (from the audience) quickly shut down; though she was not the only one at our table who was pissed, just the one who spoke up to the entire audience. I completely agree with [livejournal.com profile] deepad as even if the derailer had a point, framing my sexuality as fucked up and others' skin color as the same thing is derailing and giant fail. If you want more details, please read this post by [livejournal.com profile] rahirah.

Afterward, I went to forage food with [livejournal.com profile] monanotlisa, [livejournal.com profile] deepad, [livejournal.com profile] pukajen, [livejournal.com profile] invisible_lift, [livejournal.com profile] kalichan, [livejournal.com profile] melange, [livejournal.com profile] amaresu, and a couple other people. As several of them were panelists, what had happened was definitely a hot topic of discussion. Some of the group continued this discussion and went out to lunch, and of course, this discussion is continuing online now that we're no longer at con. Again, see the post.

[livejournal.com profile] pukajen and I went to the Star Trek MST3K event, which had been something I was looking forward to all day. Fun was had while watching "The Trouble with Tribbles" and "Mirror, Mirror." Our table was snarking so much that [livejournal.com profile] harmonyfb pulled us up to the microphones. I was definitely impressed with [livejournal.com profile] _beetle_'s bow-chicka-bow-bow timing. [livejournal.com profile] kindkit and I spent a lot of time giggling, while sitting next to her. Con-decompression and snarky fun.

Found some dinner and said my goodbyes as [livejournal.com profile] amaresu and I took off for her home. A whole 20 minute drive away. After which, she proceeded to get me hooked on Pushing Daisies.


[livejournal.com profile] amaresu and her kitty.

The next day, it was tourist time. Since the museums were closed on Mondays, we decided to hit the comic book stores, which also turned out to be closed on Mondays. Instead, we ended up at Uncle Hugo's sci-fi bookstore, Smitten Kitten (lady-friendly sex shop), and eating burgers (the kind without cow for me). We also stopped for groceries so I could make dinner for [livejournal.com profile] amaresu and her mom. Made Aloo Chole, became friends with the dog, and watched more Pushing Daisies.

Tuesday, we spent the day at the Walker Art Museum and the Sculpture Park. We saw a bunch of modern art, which I have lots of love for. (And don't really care if others 'don't get it.') Got to be a Warhol fangirl and also see a ton of ceramics I'd heard all about in my days at the uni. Mostly from my ceramics professor who told us about the time he'd been drinking with these artists. It was awesome.


Me with the Spoonbridge and Cherry by Claes Oldenburg


[livejournal.com profile] amaresu with Double Curve by Ellsworth Kelly


Prophecy of the Ancients by Brower Hatcher


Woodrow by Deborah Butterfield


Hare on Bell on Portland Stone Piers by Barry Flanagan

Photos of flowers from the Alene Grossman Memorial Arbor and Flower Garden:





Then we met up with [livejournal.com profile] soundingsea and [livejournal.com profile] ironchefjoe at the Wild Roast for dinner. We ended up back at their place and watching the last episode of Burn Notice. I also got some kitty attention.

Wednesday, [livejournal.com profile] amaresu and I went to the Mill City Museum, which is all about how Minneapolis used to be the largest flour mill city. There was much talk about flour explosions. And it made me really hungry.


Minnesota skyline from the top of the Mill City Museum


Cookbooks in the Mill City Museum's baking lab

So we headed to Super Target, which really capped off my vacation. (Note: I went to college with a bunch of Minnesotans; many who lamented that there were no Super Target's in Tacoma.)

Inspired by the museum, I baked bread and made chiles rellenos for dinner.

Then [livejournal.com profile] amaresu introduced me to Leverage and her niece and nephews, which I shortly became their favorite new person ever as they came over to stay with their auntie and grandma for an extended weekend. There was ponies and flying things.

The next morning, I got up, packed, and flew home. Overall, I had lots of fun and would definitely go to [livejournal.com profile] writercon again. And suggest that you do too.

If anyone has photos of me, I'd love to have them!

on 2009-08-08 09:12 pm (UTC)
usedtobeljs: (What Would Donna Do by Omphalos)
Posted by [personal profile] usedtobeljs
Sounds like a great time! :-)

on 2009-08-09 01:15 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
It really was!

on 2009-08-08 09:29 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] delgaserasca.livejournal.com
I don't read a lot of con write-ups because a lot of them seem to me to be something you have to witness in the moment. That said, writercon sounds like one of the more interesting ones, and the panels you attended seemed a great forum for debates that tend to get metafandom'd.

In more shallow news: y'all look lovely in the photos!

on 2009-08-09 01:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Yes, a lot of con is living in that moment. WriterCon is definitely interesting and I like going to the panels that are ripped from metafandom's headlines (which I realize is not everyone's cup o' tea).

Thanks. It's very fun to have an excuse to get prettied up. :)

on 2009-08-08 09:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com
That all sounds really fun! I wish I could have made it -- if I hadn't done so many damn cons already this year. I much appreciate your report.

And on a shallow note, I don't think I've seen a picture since your hair got longer and it looks FANTASTIC :)

on 2009-08-09 01:22 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I wish you could've made it too!

Thank you. :)

on 2009-08-08 10:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] wackinessensues.livejournal.com
Damn, I spent *a lot* of time in the con suite apparently. I really must make more of an effort to get to panels and events next time.

Also, if you come down to play with [livejournal.com profile] blacknblue2 lemme know, or maybe we could make a road trip up to you...

on 2009-08-09 01:25 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
But the consuite is the perfect place to run into a variety of people! (Though I decided that I needed to make a better effort to get my ass out of bed for the early panels. Stupid time zones.)

I will let you know if anything solidifies.

on 2009-08-08 10:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] callmesandy.livejournal.com
I also wish we had had more time! :)

on 2009-08-12 03:34 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
*nods* There's always next time or you don't live that far away, now that we both know the other isn't a serial killer. ;)

on 2009-08-09 12:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dancetomato.livejournal.com
I'm so bummed I missed half the con, even more bummed that I didn't get to spend any quality time together. Just an excuse to have another WC! Had a ball for the time I was there.

on 2009-08-12 03:35 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Yes, more WriterCons. *nods* I can get behind that.

on 2009-08-09 12:34 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] stultiloquentia.livejournal.com
I wanted to go so badly! Saving my pennies for the next one.

Overall, I wish I'd been more vocal on both the queer culture issues and bdsm.

You give that talk next time and I'm so there.

on 2009-08-12 03:48 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I hope you can make the next one.

I would definitely love to give those talks.

on 2009-08-09 12:56 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] velvetwhip.livejournal.com
It sounds like an amazing con this time. I wish I could have been there.


Gabrielle

on 2009-08-12 03:49 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I wish you had been there too!

on 2009-08-09 03:48 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] fourleftxaviers.livejournal.com
That all sounds 99% awesome. I am so jealous of all the con discussion/panel thingies you were part of. Those are fascinating.

Rodney and John gave me a flashback to the last LotR slashcon I attended. For me, if panel discussions are the coolest part of a con, and meeting other fen is the second coolest, action figure pron has to be third.

on 2009-08-12 03:51 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
As you can tell, I like those meta discussions. (I know they aren't for everyone.) But it's really great to sit down and talk face-to-face with people.

Hee. I saw some Writercon photos from the Spuffy meetup and a Dr. Who one with a bunch of action figures. It was sad that only John and Rodney got passed around in the consuite.

on 2009-08-09 09:56 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] purple-cube.livejournal.com
I'm left with two thoughts after reading this post:

1) The con sounds awesome! Having never been to one such as this, it sounds like it would be an amzing experience, and not just fannishly. Glad you had a great time :)

2) You must have an amazing memory, being able to recall all of those people (by their LJ handles, no less) you met!

Also, you all look lovely in the photos.

on 2009-08-12 03:54 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
1. It's so awesome. You should come. (And yes, there were many people from across the pond who attended.)

2. After the first one, I made an extra effort so I'm happy it worked. Thankfully, everyone wears nametags. (Otherwise, I'd really never remember.)

Thanks. :)

on 2009-08-10 12:06 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] blacknblue2.livejournal.com
It was awesome meeting you, and I do hope we get to visit sometime soon. Also, yes, yes, yes to the BDSM panel, next time.

on 2009-08-12 03:55 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Yes. Yes. And yes.

I'm currently waiting for a few life things to settle down and then I'll be making plans for fun.

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