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1. Good job, Dreamwidth, with your beta and creating a supply and demand chain. Fandom wants what it can't have all of and, thus, it wants it even more. Relax, it's just marketing; fannish content isn't going to dry up and die on LJ and you aren't going to be left out in the cold in a Dickens' novel.

2. In the same way, I did not move to IJ, there is a very slim (.003%) chance I will move to Dreamwidth. (Don't have a code and am perfectly okay with that. Though I might username squat at some point.) Even slimer that I'd desert my LJ.

3. I'm a cynic. I don't believe in Dreamwidth or fandom in the way many of you do. And that's cool if you do as that's your thing. I've just read too much race wank to clap my hands.

4. Good job, BNFs (and others), in disabling LJ comments, but still cross-posting and forcing LJ users to go to Dreamwidth to interact with you. The reasons IJ did not catch fire (except in crazy HP circles and some other fringe groups we liked to sweep under the rug anyway) is because the majority of people did not move with them. BNFs, in particular, are not going to use a new service if their audience doesn't travel with them. Starting from scratch, with no reputation and readers, is a motherfucker.

5. But sorry, #4s, won't be following you anymore on LJ. If you're only on Dreamwidth, then you're not reading my journal either and you're blocking me from commenting on what I read, thus our interaction ceases to exist on LJ. Social networks are about interactions. Some of us are not here just for the porn. Porn's just the whip cream.

6. Have a permanent account here. I really don't have issues with our Russian overlords. I have to actually see that a service is better before I'll use it. The whole friends vs reading list/subscription thing is not really a sell for me because I have no problem defriending people even if I have to see you every day in RL.

7. In an effort to work on other parts of my life, I have social networking tendrils on LJ, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Fetlife, local bdsm club's social network, Flickr, Delicious (two accounts -- fannish and non-fannish), FoodBuzz, an overfull Google reader, and three blogs hosted under my RL name. I really don't have time for another thing.

8. Call me when it's September and we can talk about this social experiment.
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on 2009-04-18 06:59 am (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com
If you're only on Dreamwidth, then you're not reading my journal either and you're blocking me from commenting on what I read, thus our interaction ceases to exist on LJ.

Actually, DW is coming out soon with a feature that will allow DW users to fold their LJ flists into their DW reading lists.

Even without this feature, just because someone wants to consolidate the discussion on their crossposted entries into one place, it doesn't really follow that they're never going to read or comment on LJ again.

on 2009-04-18 08:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
That's definitely interesting, and I'd like to see what exactly happens with it when it's implemented.

It's just a lot of work to find your friends, figure out who's cross-posting, and set up syndicated feeds for those who aren't. I tried, once upon a time, to use LJ as my RSS reader and for various reasons, including tedium, broke my reading down into LJ = fandom and Google reader = non-fandom interests.

I think it also depends if a person feels that they want all their friends to move to DW and don't care about some audience loss or they care very deeply about this. I have seen mixed reactions on my flist who are moving to DW as their primary journaling service and statements concerning DW.

on 2009-04-18 07:04 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I think I'm the only person online whoswe main interest in Dreamwidth is that it makes it easier to keep all my archives in two places than the various other LJ copies do(as in, my limited skills were able to figure it out, there, and couldn't elsewhere), as I can't remember to use my LJ archive unless someone actually mentions it to me.

on 2009-04-18 08:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I know a lot of people have been using IJ as that. I still have a personal fandom website where all my stuff goes up and every six months or so I remember to use LJ Archive.

The only thing I'd worry about using DW (or IJ for that matter) as an archive is that their servers are untested. When they open it up after this beta period, they could get such a rush that their servers crash and have possible loss of content. They can say that isn't going to happen all they want and that they're ready (and in some ways, I think they're ready more than others given their backgrounds with LJ), but you can't prove something isn't going to happen if it's never been tested.

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on 2009-04-18 08:02 am (UTC)
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3. I'm a cynic. I don't believe in Dreamwidth or fandom in the way many of you do. And that's cool if you do as that's your thing. I've just read too much race wank to clap my hands.

This. People kept saying that we couldn't understand it until we'd tried it and seen how wonderful it was. Well, I'm trying it and so far I'm not seeing anything which makes me want to sing its praises. I am not a believer. Sometimes I wish I was.

an overfull Google reader

Do you like Google reader? I've not tried it yet, but unlike everything else, most people on my flist don't talk about it a lot, so I have no real feel for pros or cons.

on 2009-04-18 01:00 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] callmesandy.livejournal.com
I have google reader and, eh, it's fine. I'm not a fan of the graphic interface. But it's really good at keeping track of rss feeds and I love how I can follow posts at some forums without actually joining. It's easy enough to use that I could convince my mom to try it. :)

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on 2009-04-18 08:24 am (UTC)
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*draws little hearts all over this entire thing*

on 2009-04-18 08:18 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
*draws hearts on you*

on 2009-04-18 09:08 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] artaxastra.livejournal.com
I'm not moving either. Most of my flist isn't fannish, and I have a real problem with the mods over on Dreamwidth, and their wankishness in the past. I think it's going to be a trainwreck.

on 2009-04-18 08:20 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I went through the list of mods after your comment (and other flister's post) about the wank, and yeah...

Like I said, we can wait a few months and see how this social experiment goes.

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on 2009-04-18 10:21 am (UTC)
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Hear, hear!

on 2009-04-18 08:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Have I ever told you that I adore that icon?

on 2009-04-18 10:33 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] usedtobeljs
The combination in #7 and #4 is the problem for me, too -- I'm already rather busy, I have a work-related Facebook as well as two LJs to keep going, and (perhaps because I'm tired right now) the idea of having to get an OpenID account and the log out-log in-reply-log out sequence every time I want to comment on DW is weary-making. But, ah well.

Also, in passing -- [hugs].

on 2009-04-18 08:26 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Being busy is really at the top of my list as for reasons why I'm going to wait until it's actually proven that my social networking would benefit from a different platform.

*hugs* Hope you're having a lovely weekend.

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on 2009-04-18 11:46 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] nolivingman.livejournal.com
I find it highly entertaining that so many fans have suspended their understanding of capitalism; do they really think that the Dreamwidth founders won't sell out in a heartbeat? That that's not a *good* outcome for the DW folks?

I wish them well with it, but I'm not ready to declare it the One True Networking Platform for a good long while; let's see how they react under stress/load. All the TL;DR true believing comments I've read about the thing just make me more cynical.

on 2009-04-18 08:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
From what I've read, the general consensus does seem to be that the DW people won't sell out due to their "lessons learned" when some of them were employed by LJ. But there's also a bigger lesson of maintaining ones' lifestyle and service that perhaps may be the tipping point. I really think if DW does succeed that the corporations behind FanLib may come knocking at their door.

let's see how they react under stress/load

That's really what I'm waiting for. Let's see what happens when they open their doors on April 30th to all who want to join. And let's see how many users actually pony up money for their One True Networking Platform.

on 2009-04-18 01:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] callmesandy.livejournal.com
I agree with you on all this, even though I have a dw. I never got the hatred and wish to flee lj, frankly. I plan to use lj as my primary journal and dw just to keep track of the people who've decided to camp out there.

on 2009-04-18 08:32 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I think the entire thing will be interesting to see what happens if nothing else. Like I mentioned, I will probably name squat at some point as I do/did with IJ, GJ, and JF.

on 2009-04-18 01:13 pm (UTC)
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Oh! This was so refreshing to read.

Good job, BNFs (and others), in disabling LJ comments, but still cross-posting and forcing LJ users to go to Dreamwidth to interact with you.

Really? People are doing that? Wow, I'm pretty sure you're not the only one who's not going to follow them over. I know I wouldn't. Just the disabling of the comments is really annoying.

The thing is, I have a paid account here. I'm not sure I'm willing to pay for two accounts to follow people (and yes, I have an open ID account over there to check things out, and yes I know I can follow people with that ID, but it's still not the same as having a paid account there).

I just recently created an IJ account to follow the reincarnation of scans_daily, but it's still not very convenient to check another journal at another site -- even a comm I so dearly love.

If anything, I'm curious about the coding freedom I seem to be reading about from some of my flist.

on 2009-04-18 08:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Really? People are doing that?

There has been at least one or two people on my flist who have and I've read about others (non-flisters) doing the same. I had a couple do a similar thing when IJ first came about and that whole set of LJ sucks wankage.

Have you thought about looking for a LJ syndicated feed for scans_daily? Especially if you're over there just for one comm.

As a web designer, yes, the coding very much intrigues me as does the idea. However, as a user, none of what's currently implemented makes me really want to move.

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on 2009-04-18 01:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zulu.livejournal.com
Eh, I don't mind it so much. It's always interesting to see something new and try it out. I like that I've made my layout pretty over there and that I have my preferred username. I like that I've met new people and have them on my unflist. It's really no different for me than getting an insanejournal account. I've had three flists for the last year or longer (including journalfen), and it doesn't bother me to make it four. Since I don't plan to pay for it (not that I could), it's a pretty simple thing to have and maintain. What I don't like, of course, is that my fandom's not moving and my people-who-I-care-about-as-people aren't moving, so I'll probably crosspost the same as I do to insanejournal. Some people's insistence that they don't want to "fracture the conversation" is rather ironic given that that's what dreamwidth is boasting it can do better than anybody else. For me it's not a problem. (Nobody comments on my insanejournal anyway, for instance.) All in all, I figure redundancy's good and friending new people is good, and that's about where my thought process started and ended.

on 2009-04-18 08:42 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I do think DW is intriguing, but more from my professional and human interests, not my fandom ones. In fandom terms, I get why fandom moved from mailing lists to LJ, but I'm not "getting" why some want to move from LJ to DW from a service POV.

on 2009-04-18 01:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marsterslady.livejournal.com
Hi. :) I've only just recently begun to attempt to keep up again on lj, I have a permanent account here, and I haven't any clue what Dreamwidth is. I'm so in the dark that I just heard about Twitter and Facebook. When I can read, I read about what is actually happening in a friend's life. I'm happy to see an entry from you. :)

on 2009-04-18 08:48 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Hi!

I'm so in the dark that I just heard about Twitter and Facebook.

I wouldn't worry. Just this week, I had to have a 20 minute talk with a co-worker during a meeting about Twitter and its relevance. In new internet services, it's often "let's see what sticks to the wall" before people start talking about it in non-tech places and non-tech people using it. Twitter is just moving out of that stage and Facebook was originally targeted just toward college students.

When I can read, I read about what is actually happening in a friend's life

Me too. That's really the reason I'm still using this service. Had it been like the mailing lists of old, I probably would've unsubscribed by now.

on 2009-04-18 02:31 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ohinternets.livejournal.com
i really love this whole post.

and i am tellin' you, lj, i'm not goin'.

on 2009-04-18 08:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I had a sneaking suspicion you might.

on 2009-04-18 02:42 pm (UTC)
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Huh. I never looked at it that way. I only see it as "spreading out." I intend to crosspost everything (because I like to bitch and whine in stereo), and I'm pretty much not consolidating as much as I'm...umm...extending.

At this point, I don't see that much difference between LJ and DW. Granted, I haven't tried to filter anything there or tag memories, etc., so I can't speak to the "big differences" yet if, in fact, there are any.

*thoughtful*

on 2009-04-18 08:56 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
My world view is definitely colored by my web designing career, especially my current position of explaining to the company I work for why this social media thing is something they can use and how they need to use it.

I do see most people -- like yourself -- crossposting. But in terms of marketing and moving people permanently onto DW as their One True Networking Service to make the service bigger, better, and sustainable, crossposting doesn't work. Ever wonder why it was so hard to get off Facebook once you were there? Facebook doesn't want you ever to leave Facebook. Internet services are build as a solution to a problem, and DW was build because there are/were problems with LJ's services and it's creators wanted to fix those problems.

on 2009-04-18 03:08 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] likeadeuce.livejournal.com
I think if this had happened a few years ago, when I was primarily here for Buffyverse and fic, and so was just about everybody else I read, I would have thought about it.

But like you, my online reading is so spread around now, a lot of the people I follow aren't in the same fandoms I'm in -- and I'm fine with that, because that's not what I'm here for.

I hope DW is a good thing for people who are doing it but it's not really for me right now.

on 2009-04-18 09:00 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Do you ever feel that because comics have so many more fanboys that it's more "legitimate" than the Buffyverse ever was? Because, minus the fanfic, I think my analysis of the Buffyverse would've gotten more strange looks than my essays on why I love Jessica Jones.

I hope DW is a good thing for people who are doing it but it's not really for me right now.

It is kind of strange perspective, isn't it?

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on 2009-04-18 03:10 pm (UTC)
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I am right there with you on ALL of your points. Right there with ya.

on 2009-04-18 10:40 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I have so many hobbies and different social networks; when did this happen, Stoney? Remember when it was all booze and gay porn about Spike and Angel being truckers who were actually undercover FBI agents investigating alien technology? Ah, life was so much simpler back then.

on 2009-04-18 03:16 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] denyce.livejournal.com
&hearts: Yeah I'm not running over, but will opt for to try it out-play with a pd acct for a year. For me it'll just be adding another blog (train car) to follow like the others :IJ, JF, spark, etc, all behind my main blog LJ *shrugs*

On a different note, I'm all excited about writercon you're going right?

on 2009-04-18 10:43 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
Ooh, I like the image of a traincar. I'm okay with traincars as long as they all can be simply synced into one place for maximum train capacity.

Yes, I'll be there! I'm also super excited.

on 2009-04-18 03:46 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] stultiloquentia.livejournal.com
If you're only on Dreamwidth, then you're not reading my journal either and you're blocking me from commenting on what I read, thus our interaction ceases to exist on LJ. Social networks are about interactions.

Eep! I plan to blog from DW (well, Semagic...) because my current primary fandom is all over it like chocolate on peanut butter, and I really do like their business plan/planned features/open sourceitude etc. But I sure don't intend to stop reading my LJ flist; I have good friends here, both fannish and fan-oblivious, who won't ever budge. I'm not sure yet how I'll manage comments on crossposted entries, but I think your assumption is backwards! To wit: a good chunk of what I post is meta, and the fun part of those posts isn't me on my soapbox; it's the comment threads -- people reading and responding to other commenters. If I direct all comments to the same place, more good social interaction happens, not less. That's my entire reasoning, not some kind of Moohaha, I force you all to come to meee! (which would be darned silly, coming from this Fan of Smallish-to-Middling Size).

on 2009-04-18 10:51 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
I should mention that similarly to what happened with IJ, I am waiting several months before I'd take any sort of hatched to my flist because you never know what will happen with DW or fandom for that matter.

I do get aggregating the conversation to one place. And my good job was both sarcastic and congratulatory because in order to get people to stick with a service, you have to make them never leave. Facebook is the most brilliant social networking service when it comes to never leaving it's soft bosom for anything, except the loo.

I do think that part of cynicism is that DW intrigues me more as web/social media professional than a fandom participant. It doesn't do much for me concerning fandom, except that some of my flist may or may not be moving their permanently.

on 2009-04-18 03:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jennyo.livejournal.com
I don't believe in it because nobody's willing to pay for Dreamwidth's actual value: a location where our kiddie pr0n and copyright-stolen material is protected against Johnny Law. I mean, blah blah, today they came for the Potter chan, tomorrow they'll come for the Callie/Erica...except it still hasn't happened. Pretty much every corporate row around fandom involves either chan or a network deciding that's too much fair use of their precious product, which I can back up with ten years of fannish activity.

LJ had actual value over mailing lists - you could talk about Buffy/X-Files/Star Trek, but a) not have to listen to the boring people on your main list, b) write much longer entries, c) have reply threads that weren't these mammoth emails that were hard to break into, d) create the equivalent of your own custom mailing list and find new people without having to join a new list or newsgroup and filter out the noise. That's why people went to LJ, and that's why many of us are still here.

DW duplicates all that value, but it's only true value added, potentially, is "freedom." Of course, what that translates to in an ideal world is that their lawyers will back Katie Channer when JK Rowling or CNN and a bunch of crazy religious people with too much time on their hands come a knocking, which is less freedom and more defense. There's actually a strong detriment, which is that if I'm on LJ for anything but chan-n-scans, those people have less than zero incentive to move to DW, and thus, so do I.

...man, now my brain has thoughts! Damn.

on 2009-04-18 08:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] artaxastra.livejournal.com
Of course, what that translates to in an ideal world is that their lawyers will back Katie Channer when JK Rowling or CNN and a bunch of crazy religious people with too much time on their hands come a knocking, which is less freedom and more defense.

Which is great and all, but I'm not sure how a little start up is going to have the money for that. With the budget they're talking about, one round of lawyer's fees to just begin with would put them out of business. I mean, for something like that you're talking about starting at $25,000 in lawyers fees on up. It could easily run several hundred grand.

The only way to have that protection is to have the lawyers doing the work pro bono, which a business can't have but a nonprofit can. For my buck, it's better to bet on OTW in that case than a starter service provider.

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on 2009-04-18 04:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dancetomato.livejournal.com
Yes. Just yes. Except I want a code to name squat, not that anyone is going to steal my name. Even if I use DW, I won't be importing all my posts over there. What's the point when I have them all here and have archived them?

on 2009-04-18 11:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
*nods* Every time fandom has moved, it's been to a service that was different and better for a variety of reasons and DW just isn't different enough.

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on 2009-04-18 05:15 pm (UTC)
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I'm with you. Especially re: BNFs who, even if cross-friendslist functionality exists, are basically saying they won't continue to read anyone who doesn't get a Dreamwidth account. I haven't seen anyone do this, but I can believe it.

I'm going to get two accounts. One will be a fic mirror/archive/anyone who feels strongly that they need to friend me over there. The other will be for a blog project under my legal/professional name -- largely to see if Dreamwidth is good for anything other than fandom, or if it's just JournalFen with shinier packaging. (If it fails, it will be easy to just move that to Blogger!)

on 2009-04-18 07:50 pm (UTC)
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Especially re: BNFs who, even if cross-friendslist functionality exists, are basically saying they won't continue to read anyone who doesn't get a Dreamwidth account. I haven't seen anyone do this, but I can believe it.

I can't believe it, because I haven't seen a single person saying it, and I've really been reading around on the DW issue. I mean, not one person.

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on 2009-04-18 07:27 pm (UTC)
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I'm lucky. No one I know has disabled comments here to force me to head to Dreamwidth (though I admit to craving a code).


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on 2009-04-18 11:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
It'll be interesting to see what happens with DW in the next few months.

on 2009-04-18 07:54 pm (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com
Eh, I'm a cynic by nature, but I really haven't witnessed what you're describing. I've actually noticed some people directing users from DW to LJ more than the reverse, because they're consolidating here.

#5 -- there's just no rationale behind that assumption. I read at four different journalling services now (and see other people doing similar reading), as well as at a number of blogs I don't have syndicated here, at their sites. It also doesn't make sense to say you're blocked from commenting once we all have OpenID.

Re IJ, I do find HP writers focused on particular pairings or rarer characters (of which I read a wide range), and just some authors who made an individual decision to do so, have moved to IJ, so I read them there. So. Yeah. Thanks for dismissing all of them as crap!

on 2009-04-19 12:41 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com
#5 -- When boldthrough/strikethrough was going around, I had flisters move permanently to IJ. Some of them crossposted for a while, and after six months or so, I found myself with increasingly less and less interactions with them and thus, no need to keep them on my flist. I've already had several flist say goodbye to LJ for posting and some of them promise to keep in touch, but others have implied that they aren't going to hang around LJ for very long.

Re IJ: Not dismissing them (crazy and crap are not equal), but IJ was created and marketed to those who sought refuge after they were kicked off LJ for their HP chan fic, took some of their audience/sympathizers with them to IJ, and then others like yourself have been active to look for other things in HP fandom of your interest, but your primary service is still LJ.

Historically, fandoms has moved for two reasons:

Mass fandom moves, which is what DW is targeting and those early adopters are hoping will happen, have only happened when the service is far superior and the move is worth it because the audience is coming along. See historical fandoms moves from usenet to bbs to mailing list to forums to LJ. DW is not that different.

Small portions of fandom have moved to JF, IJ, and now DW when they are kicked off LJ. See fandom_wank, HP chan, and scans_daily. They take some of their audience with them, but not everyone in fandom. However, small portions are not a sustainable business model as we saw with the fall of GJ.
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on 2009-04-19 01:22 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] packmentality.livejournal.com
I've been trying to pin down what it is exactly that's been making me wary of Dreamwidth and I think you've pinned down most of my reasons. Especially #4 and #7. I barely use LJ anymore, except to look in on my flist and occasionally read some fic, so unless I decide to start keeping a more frequently updated blog again, I'm not going anywhere.

on 2009-04-19 07:47 pm (UTC)
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For me to use a new service, I really need to be convinced that it's actually different and useful compared to the other services that I'm already entrenched in.

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on 2009-04-20 02:23 am (UTC)
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This. With sparkly bits on top.

I mean, I have a DW but since I have a permanent account here, the chances of me leaving LJ are slim to none. A lot of people are making a big deal out of DW and frankly, I don't really think it is a big deal. It's just another journalling service to me and since most of my social circle are outside of that particular branch of fannish life, or are people who I talk to for reasons other than fandom... *shrug*

So the whole 'It's for the good of fandom' schtick really isn't doing much for me. If you want me to bolt from this stable faster than a thoroughbred race horse, tell me why DreamWidth is good in general, aside for the difference in how you construct your social circle. Everything else about it so far has not really made me think this 'fork' of the LJ code is any better - in fact, there are plenty of things in DW's code that piss me off that LJ got rid of ages ago - tiny things like the )states/regions/territories) thing not appearing in the profile if you live in a country where they aren't listed.
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on 2009-04-20 08:41 pm (UTC)
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That's a bug, with the locations thing: http://bugs.dwscoalition.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751

It'll come out once the babydevs start being committed again in May :D

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